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Row2k Polls

Crew of the Week for April 28, 2009

2405 Votes

Princeton Mens LW8 33.3%
Granby HS 28.3%
Syracuse Mens HW8 13.7%
Anderson/Sickler 12.2%
Virgina Womens V8  7.3%
Maritime Girls  5.1%
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Rower123
05/01/2009  6:07:21 AM
Looks like Princeton has a better closing 500 than Granby. Congrats to all crews for being nominated.

bowBalls
05/01/2009  7:18:26 AM
But not better than Cornell(last year's IRA)...that may be across the line but I couldn't resist.


p09150
05/04/2009  8:11:31 PM
Thanks for the motivation bowballs - like pouring gas on a fire

FISAWrld04
05/01/2009  11:24:38 AM
Ouch...


JustAFan
04/30/2009  6:19:04 PM
I'll be the first to say i don't know much about crew. But i do know a lot of people on the Granby crew team and i know how hard they work. They are so dedicated and it really showed this week. Great job you guys!

Rowboth
04/30/2009  8:02:04 AM

Rowboth
04/30/2009  7:59:36 AM
http://www.row2k.com/video/ Thanks for posting the NSR W1x video. Looks like a great race. Brett Sickler and company very impressive!

1floatsting2
04/29/2009  7:11:27 PM
some people joke, some people instigate, and many dont realize that they are doing either. haha, how many people have names containing jhstew, or some combo their of. slay, like yur style. former spares got my vote fo sho

WashedUpOldMan
04/29/2009  7:06:58 PM
Rowing is a gentleman's sport (or gentlewoman's), but you wouldn't think it from these 'Crew of the Week' poll comments. If you care at all about what you do then you would appreciate any and all growth and every person sitting in a boat. The more athletes, the more competitive the sport becomes.

1floatsting2
04/29/2009  7:12:57 PM
we should probably just laugh at the joke comments, and ignore them with the intstigators.

FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  7:10:59 PM
You are exactly right. I would row with you anytime, anywhere, in any boat. Thank you for reminding all why we do what we do.


Taylorfreem
04/29/2009  4:55:44 PM
Voted for Princeton. I realize someone will yell at me, but it's impressive to be undefeated and beat the 3 time IRA champions (Cornell) by quite a huge margin. I'm hoping to see the Tigers take the IRA this year. Kudos to everyone else though, every crew is on there for a reason.

vanduyne
04/30/2009  12:08:44 AM
Yes.

LWRow556
04/29/2009  6:57:33 PM
...and you probably attend Princeton. Plenty of crews have been beating Cornell, and you don't see them up there. Granby.


GranbyHeadCoach
04/29/2009  4:52:08 PM
Thank you, rowing family, for your support and encouragement. I am honored each day by the opportunity to work with such talented and dedicated student-athletes. It is truly humbling to have been nominated along with such exceptional crews, and I wish all of them a great remainder of the season. Rowing is about building communities, connections of people who do what we do for the love of the sport and the passion of the race; that is what has kept me for the past 13 years. Again, thank you for supporting this burgeoning team, and we will continue to grow to become even better stewards of that which unites us all. -Matthew

AbeFrohman
04/29/2009  3:05:44 PM
I am spiteful as well. Princeton is impressive.

vanduyne
04/30/2009  12:24:00 AM
Yes.


jstewartisemo
04/29/2009  2:39:31 PM
i voted for princeton just to spite jhstew.

1floatsting2
04/29/2009  7:22:25 PM
mmm. slay


vanduyne
04/29/2009  12:15:05 PM
Props to Granby for a great weekend... ...having said that, they'll get my vote when they win a V8, or whatever the headline event for a regatta is.

vanduyne
04/29/2009  12:16:23 PM
Also, what is "team efficiency," and how is it calculated?


bowBalls
04/29/2009  12:47:20 PM
I believe that efficiency is calculated based on the number of points earned at a regatta divided by the potential points that could be earned by all the team's boats entered. This is supposed to keep the larger teams from winning because they have such a large number of boats entered and are more likely to earn points.

EARCox
04/29/2009  12:34:15 PM
Just a stab in the dark, but I'm gonna say something along the lines of the team with the highest medals to athlete ratio.


spethial
04/29/2009  3:31:56 PM
i believe the way they do it in the evsra is what bowballs described, earned points divided by potential points


grumpyrowerU2
04/29/2009  6:50:34 PM
The efficiency trophy goes to the team who has the overall second highest score. EVSRA only allows points from four boats so each team has an even chance to win the first place trophy. Great Bridge won first place overall again for the 7th consectutive year.


vanduyne
04/30/2009  12:00:29 AM
Like I said, props to Granby, but it still sounds like a participation award to me. And three fours and a pair? Really? That gets you CoTW these days? I thought you had to toss P'town to get that (jhstew).


crkeplar
04/29/2009  10:11:41 AM
Granby is as deserving as any of the other programs. The question is not which program is the best, nor which one would have beaten which in which case a high school program shoul dnever receive the award. Read the nomination criteria before you start spouting off about what happened at Mathews or what effort an Ivy league program has put in to get to where they are. The last week for Granby was a watermark week and took the crew from a program which was placing single boats in the top 3 to several boats in the first place. If the point of the poll were to compare an elite program like Princeton, Yale, Harvard, or even Old Dominion to an inner city shoestring budget school like Granby, then I would be sad to report that there is not a point in placing High School crews in the same poll to begin with. A school like Gloucester or Mathews with a tradition of rowing and dollars to support the habit may be able to match up against the Princetons of the world, but as for me, I am in favor of rewarding the efficiency and the accomplishments of the kids who actually value an honor like Crew of the Week as opposed to shining a spotlight on programs which are expected to perform at that level week in and week out. My vote is for overcoming adversity, not simply for the effort in a single race or a single regatta, but for the week of April the 28th being a new high water mark for a program that is still defining itself. Go Granby!

FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  10:14:21 AM
Yes.


samwell
04/29/2009  9:21:08 AM
Someone tell me how winning the NSR does not beat any of these? Really? And since when is there a mixed 8 event in high school?

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  9:57:37 AM
Increase your rowing studies to learn the answer; it is not at all new... -SRW


samwell
04/29/2009  10:04:36 AM
I realize the event is not at all new. On the other hand I have never seen it at a high school regatta especially a serious high school regatta.


bishop155
04/29/2009  9:03:02 AM
I can't wait for the article in Rowing News regarding the 2009 Granby High School as the greatest high school ever!!!!

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  9:56:26 AM
Evidently, Bishop, you are misinformed regarding this poll. It is not for greatest team "ever," but rather recognizes accomplishes from one week; in this instance, it is last week. No one is claiming what you factitiously claim in your posting. Granby Crew has developed so much over the past few years, and their accomplishments from last week are phenomenal. -SRW


FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  10:10:55 AM
Good points, ROW. I think it was just a joke, though... -LRW

samwell
04/29/2009  10:05:21 AM
Increase your literary device studies; hyperbole is not at all new.


FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  10:10:09 AM
Cheap shot, samwell. Not wrong, but cheap shot. -LRW

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  10:07:10 AM
Touche. -SRW


jhstew
04/29/2009  8:56:29 AM
all i want to know is where cornell and yale are. did granby hs beat princeton?

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  9:58:42 AM
Did Granby beat Princeton? Now you’re just being silly. Two totally different races, locations, age groups, teams, etc. This poll is based on the merit of one team’s accomplishments. -SRW


2CiiX21
04/29/2009  8:36:09 AM
Why is the Virginia Women's 8 on this list? Wasn't the last crew of the week given to Clemson specifically for beating them? If my life depended on it I still couldn't tell you what state Granby HS is in, or name any race they've ever been to.

151321row
04/29/2009  10:24:32 AM
This is WHY Virginia is on the list..... Virginia Women's Varsity 8 - Rebounded from their first defeat at the ACC Championships the previous week to defeat Northeastern, Gonzaga, #11 USC, and #16 Radcliffe at the Charles River Challenge. "The Varsity Eight came back from over a length down to Harvard and Southern Cal to win."

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  9:59:37 AM
I suppose it may be a bit skewed for me to think that you can name every crew and race in the country...

Willdoescrew
04/29/2009  8:55:37 AM
Could you name Stotesbury. Because that would be start to naming what races they've been to. And believe the fact that UVA rebounded to win is the point of them being here


wetshj2
04/29/2009  6:19:07 AM
I think row2k is having some fun with us to spark some debate.... at least I hope so

LeanRow
04/29/2009  6:18:36 AM
cuuuuuuuuuuuse

2kizzlefoshizzle
04/29/2009  6:41:47 AM
why cuse? If anything Cornell should be up there in their place. No results point at Columbia actually being fast. Pton and Yale heavies have shown to be really slow, so those 'huge upsets' by Columbia weren't so huge. Therefore beating Columbia isn't so big of a deal. I think it's a good cuse result and show's that their a competitive crew, yet they lost last week to Cornell, who has gone undefeated so far.


GTownHW4
04/29/2009  6:14:47 AM
yeah, uhm... granby hasn't won a single race in any of the races that i've been in with them, so who are they beating? I don't know much bout their girls but I've beat their guys everytime, so I know they aren't winning much at mathews, I haven't lost a 1st 8 or a 1st 4 race yet this season at mathews and our guys in the light 4 and 2nd 4 haven't lost at mathews this season either

jsr104
04/29/2009  7:49:17 AM
Not to mention the Mathews race course is a complete joke. It's not bouyed, and isn't a straight course. Crews on the outside lanes have a clear advantage. The finish line isn't a straight line - becuase of the curve, the line is angled. Any race at Mathews is a joke. Sorry.

spethial
04/29/2009  7:16:38 AM
the main boat listed on here is granby's ml4, which won by 40 seconds in a 1300m race, i dont care who theyre racing, thats a massive margin. they arnt claiming to row a top mv8, they are listed for having a good light 4 and being efficient- rowing well with what they have. the only race that boat has lost so far was a 2nd place finish at mathews- a race where 3 of the 4 guys in that boat were gone due to spring break. -and oddly enough, that's a race that gloucester won and mathews placed 3rd in. you might want to shut up and step back. haha, the ober twins are gone, you dont have anyone to pull you around anymore.

FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  6:43:35 AM
Defining your success by wins at one race-site throughout the year is weak, especially for your G team. Get out more...


Willdoescrew
04/29/2009  8:30:44 AM
I do believe you all should stop talking down on "GTownHW4" Last I checked he finished ever so slightly behind in second place. Not to mention by the time he's already faster than one ober at least and about to knock off the other as well. One of the best guys that will come out of mobjack and he's just pointing out how easy mathews races are to win. Not talking down what Granby did at all. Congratulations to them but you dont have any space to be talking down Gtown


rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  10:02:43 AM
Hey now, let’s keep it positive! This is not about speaking down toward another program... not at all. Gloucester is an exceptional team, and I would vote for them if they were nominated. We have a slate of crew accomplishments, and my opinion is that Granby did the best. -SRW


bowBalls
04/29/2009  5:44:37 AM
Who did Granby have to race at regionals?

bowBalls
04/29/2009  5:47:33 AM
Not to take away anything from Granby, because a win is a win and lots of wins for a budding program is a great step, but I've never heard of any of the crews they beat.


spethial
04/29/2009  7:09:36 AM
it's their regionals, unless youre from the evsra, you probably dont know all of the schools there

FISAWrld04
04/29/2009  6:45:04 AM
Local program, local crews...


frankhp01
04/29/2009  5:30:40 AM
who ever wins NSR deserves cotw, that is the hardest most competive race yet this year. the amount of work that needs to be done in order to win that race cant be summed up by haveing one good season. one good race or one good day. it takes years to develop the skills necessary to compeat at that level. just think of all the people who have tried to race at that level and have failed.

MsSaturdayNight
04/29/2009  3:09:47 AM
Also probably worth noting that Warren and Brett both managed to beat a number of returning Olympians (non spares) in the process of winning the NSR.

rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  10:03:22 AM
And that is a big individual accomplishment! They raced well! -SRW


FISAWrld04
04/28/2009  8:49:44 PM
I agree ROW, let the crews decide it on the water. Knowing the Granby coach, it is amazing what those kids are doing with very little funding and very little support outside of that which comes from their parents and friends. They have achieved so much in such a short time, and while they may not be of the Princeton caliber, to be on the same polling site as a top program like Princeton speaks volumes about their performance. They have earned this recognition and will continue to dominate for the remainder of the season. This I am sure of. So others may write what they will and vote where they feel called, but do not discount this program. JOE is right about working hard, and EAR? Really... the team only has 30 participants total. It is all about making crews and letting people experience the sport. It just so happened that in this process, Granby won (more than) a couple times. If not a vote, then at least give SUPPORT where support is due! -LRW

EARCox
04/28/2009  8:22:27 PM
I agree, Princeton lightweights probably not a CotW performance, but certainly a better/more impressive performance than Granby. Granby didn't race any 8 except the mix 8 where they were 2nd... of 3. Certainly Maritime is more deserving after winning the V8+, V4+, and N4+. That said, my vote goes to Anderson/Sickler because winning NSR in the 1x is damn impressive and really the only thing that is worth CotW this week.

slayer
04/28/2009  8:22:15 PM
i dont fight, i slay.

joeboes10001
04/28/2009  6:49:36 PM
who the hecks voting for princeton? like foreal? they dont really need this, granby kids work about 3 times harder for EVERYTHING, and nobody even gives them a shot, they have talent,but nobody pays attention to little schools, well granby's gonna be a big name,just watch,and im with you jhstew!,totally with you!(:

notorious-big
05/01/2009  4:39:10 PM
What? Granby works 3x harder? Where does that even come from? If Granby even worked half as hard as the Princeton LW 1V, they'd be the fastest high school in the country. The amount of work the Princeton guys put in, especially in addition to practice time, is ridiculous. They have some of the most dedication to the sport I've ever seen--and their record shows it. They're undeafeated!

Willdoescrew
04/29/2009  9:02:51 AM
Granby kids work about three times harder for everything???!!! Are you off your rocker. Princeton....1. Has to race in the eastern sprints so if they do anything less than a ton of work they will lose.. 2. Their rowers have to keep up an ivy league academic curriculum as opposed to a public Norfolk High School... 3. This poll is supposed to be about who achieved the most so personally I'm going with the singles but I still would have probably gone with 2nd for granby having seen them grow from almost the beginning. Don't knock a sprints school though they definitely work harder


rowandcoach06
04/29/2009  10:06:23 AM
Princeton does work harder; it is silly to think otherwise... they are a varsity, fully-funded program at an Ivy League institution. The point is the Granby has very little funding, only 30 athletes, and still managed to perform the best in their short history! This should be celebrated! And as an aside, the poll is about a crew, about a team of individuals coming together to accomplish something great. I love the single scull, but I think this poll is about a team accomplishment, not an individual accomplishment. -SRW


Willdoescrew
04/30/2009  6:04:32 PM
I understand this about accomplishment. And I am aware of Granby's circumstances I row with their fastest alum who is a solid rower and a good guy as well. And like I said Granby would still be a close second to the singles. To suggest that singles cannot earn crew of the week is ignorant in my opinion however. The sport of crew encompasses any shell rowed by any oarsmen or oarswomen whether it be a 1x or an 8+. If nothing else the singles should be deserving because they work the hardest... the single is arguably the hardest boat to row... the race is the longest out there so they must have even greater endurance... and they worked from the underdog positions to win


hotdog888
04/28/2009  6:44:54 PM
jhstew you spend too much time on row2k


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