PREP ROWING. haha. Yo sick light 4. If there's one boat top high schools can't wait to race it's the soft af prep v8. Stomping in that purty white Hudson will just never get old. Not cause they're hard to beat, just because they have a slightly higher entitlement than others in the rowing world. When they put in a lot less work. And it doesn't look to betting better for those youngs any time soon. Oh yeah they're self proclaimed "soft" too. If makes me wonder what a rivalry really means. Huh. Food for thought
UVIC vs UBC These crews line up against eachother at least 5 times a year including the at the Brown Cup, the annual 3.5km dual race entering it's 20th year. These schools have produced nearly 50% of Canada's Olympic rowers.
I'm a high school coach, so I voted for Prep vs Everybody. It's true that they're the fastest out there on a consistent basis. We were lucky enough to beat them 2 years ago at Stotes and it was such a big accomplishment that I still keep this bookmarked:
Personally, I'd go for the NCAA Women's with East (EAWRC) v. West v. Middle. Always competitive, always a bunched field. Many surprises.
Rivalries are a college thing. Close call, but I chose Cal v UW. It is special. These two heavyweights row at such a high level and have been kicking each others butts for so long. The history. All those Olympic gold medals (and you had to get past the other to make it to the Olympics). All those national titles. Plus, every other year you get the adrenaline rush of racing on the cut. No better venue anywhere. Like rowing at the super bowl only louder. Exhilarating to hear all that noise.
Harvard-Yale is a close second. The overall rivalry between the universities is better than Cal-UW(Off the water, it is Stanford that is Cal's rival on the athletic field and in the academic halls). And their history is longer and comparably as stellar. But the rivalry on the water has been less consistent and historically they have been more interested in playing with themselves then racing the rowing world.
Oxford v Cambridge is a great rivalry, but it is a one and off spectacle. I like that the other races are part of a season against other crews and with UW and Cal they meet each other at the dual, the P10s and the IRA.
Internationally, I love USA v CAN men the best. But it is really not the rivalry, but how you do at the multi-boat championship that counts. There are no bragging rights if USA finishes 4th and CAN finishes 5th.
Nothing against high school rowing. The rivalries are great. But they are local both in time and space. They kids may be good, but they have not yet reached their prime. They will get faster. College rivalries are more transcendent.
boys and girls, boys and girls, please. I know we are all members in one way or another to one of these rivalries, but really? Cal and UW is big, but come on, thats more literal. Those guys are huge. Hating on the prep is so high school, hyp has like 20 spectators a year, harvard always beats yale, and the rest are irrelevant.
Oxford Cambridge is older than time, and its watched more than any of those other things, and they are always both fast. Game over. No discussion. Let us stop the tomfoolery and pettiness and give credit where credit is due.
Really? I heard there was a guy who was on Cal's 3V and went over to study at Cambridge and made the boat. And didn't 1/2 of Oxford's boat just lose to Navy at the GW Invitational? And isn't Navy ranked 10th right now?
I don't know about you, but the two are indelibly linked in my mind; watching two crews race with blazing speed and a historic rivalry is greater than watching two crews race with apparently and objectively not-as-blazing speed. Not trying to argue that there isn't a great rivalry between Oxford and Cambridge, just that there might be faster crews out that that make their respective rivalries all the more compelling for their speed.
imagine you just won a national championship. you get shwasty and plan a vacation abroad, eat some cheeseburgers and u somehow manage to agree to race some crew who are taking you seriously so they can get some publicity. only half your boat shows up hungover. nbd. you lose. go figure. who watched the race, 20 parents? millions watched you win your title. millions. and your race is 182 years old. not sayin you are on the fastest crew and there aren't any other dirtnasty rivalries out there.
serious question, what has St. Joe's done that makes them so good? They're a large team and consistently fast but an arrogant statement like 'St. Joes Prep vs. Everybody' is a bit silly. If you want to look at the stats of that rivalry, St. Joe's is losing pretty handedly. If they were going out and winning nationals every year then they could get away with such an absurd statement... but they aren't.
I am glad you asked that question. It is a question that I wondered myself for quite some time. Ultimately, it doesnt matter if The Prep finished last in every race they enter. 'Everyone' still wants to beat The Prep; no matter what. The Prep isnt always the fastest, but they are ALWAYS fast. That includes first and second heavy 8s, JV 8, Freshmen 8, and Light 8. The fact is, if you are a high school sweep rower in the north east US, you will probably end up racing The Prep at least once during your season. In most cases, The Prep's program is larger, deeper, older than yours. They have newer/better equipment, and their coaches have more experience than yours. Above all, The Prep knows these things as well. Hence its them vs 'everybodies' and everybody vs. The Prep.
its more that in the past decade or so they've consistently been the best HIGH SCHOOL team. i stress high school due to the fact that they have not had too much success against clubs. however, as the best high school team, the other schools are always gunning for them. everyone wants to beat "the prep" so often people root for their own team and whoever's racing the prep. that's why its st joes vs everybody. also it cant really be arrogant if this poll was created by row2k and not st joes
I disagree with that statement as well. Kent has consistently been the best HIGH SCHOOL team in the country. I personally do not row for Kent but they do trump every category out there and no matter what year, they would beat up on The Prep
while kent is very fast, they do not "trump every category no matter what year." last year, kents varsity was much faster but prep also handed kent its only loss of the season. and in past years, prep has had much faster boats than kent...it goes back and forth. however, if you look at varsity 8 all the way down through novice B boat, prep is probably the strongest team and thats why its such a big deal to beat them for anyone
Hodge & Reed GB to battle it out with the all conquering Kiwi pair plus Canada in the mix for the pairs.......Australia with Ginn & Free in the coxless four to take that event to another level and the German 8+to continue on their winning way......that is the 2011 WC likely outcome.
The question on every rower's mind should be something like : " Can the German 8+ make it three in a row at this year's world championships ?" they won gold in Karapiro last year, and gold in Poland in 2009. I think the last crew to 'threepeat' in world Championship wins was Mike Teti's boat which went undefeated from 1997 to 1999. Germany will have the evevryone chasing them, especially Great Britain. Andrew Triggs Hodge in the pair with Peter Reed -- both these guys should be moved in to British eight to add horsepower so they can keep up Germany.
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Rivalries are a college thing. Close call, but I chose Cal v UW. It is special. These two heavyweights row at such a high level and have been kicking each others butts for so long. The history. All those Olympic gold medals (and you had to get past the other to make it to the Olympics). All those national titles. Plus, every other year you get the adrenaline rush of racing on the cut. No better venue anywhere. Like rowing at the super bowl only louder. Exhilarating to hear all that noise.
Harvard-Yale is a close second. The overall rivalry between the universities is better than Cal-UW(Off the water, it is Stanford that is Cal's rival on the athletic field and in the academic halls). And their history is longer and comparably as stellar. But the rivalry on the water has been less consistent and historically they have been more interested in playing with themselves then racing the rowing world.
Oxford v Cambridge is a great rivalry, but it is a one and off spectacle. I like that the other races are part of a season against other crews and with UW and Cal they meet each other at the dual, the P10s and the IRA.
Internationally, I love USA v CAN men the best. But it is really not the rivalry, but how you do at the multi-boat championship that counts. There are no bragging rights if USA finishes 4th and CAN finishes 5th.
Nothing against high school rowing. The rivalries are great. But they are local both in time and space. They kids may be good, but they have not yet reached their prime. They will get faster. College rivalries are more transcendent.
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Oxford Cambridge is older than time, and its watched more than any of those other things, and they are always both fast. Game over. No discussion. Let us stop the tomfoolery and pettiness and give credit where credit is due.
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IRAs last year was sick
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