Brown has no scholarship rowers. 6seatmeat, the financial aid you speak of amounts to nothing, In this economy you seriously think I go to Brown for free? most athletes get very little help.
I think the week really belonged to Central Catholic High School Boys. what they did was really incredible out there this week, beating that team really fast-ly. i mean that speed, it was like there were 6 people rowing in that four. simply amazing. i chalk it up to their coach, Dr. Stephen Poopsmitherton.
what i'm trying to say here is that, big deal that brown is the best and fastest crew in the country.
cause let's look at the facts: brown athletes go to school for free they don't have to take classes they have other people practice for them their boats are made of nitrogen the seekonk is actually not water but pillows hulk hogan is their coach jesus comes on weekends to bless them
Hello....-Brock U- a small university in St.Catharines,Ontario ,Canada-managed to place 5 out of their six crews in Finals at Dad Vail-They have no scholarships and the athletes had to pay their way to attend-Brown's results are awesome- but no balance-What happened to their women?!Go Canadian rowing!!!!
you dont get it. yes both schools pay to attend the college, I get that, but Brown has the alumni that help support their rowing program so that they can get the newest boats. Grand Valley has a small amount of alumni because its a young school and the rowing just starting to build because of Jon Bancheri. What Grand Valley pays for as a club team is dues. that help get the team new boats and it also pays for travel. So we pay to row.
I'm glad to see that people are making the obvious choice. It is a feat to win any event at Sprints, and they won EVERY EVENT they entered. Can't wait to see those guys tear it up in Sacramento!
Yea about Yorktown, i hate to say it but Virginia as a state with little competition for the V8, or any category
If they had triumphed over Prep, Spirit or Augustine at Philadelphia cities that would be great. But the only team that really dominated at nationals and stotes that are from Virginia are Tj from 06 and 07. The only competition, high school wise, that turns out big in the end is really the teams in the Philadelphia tri state area.
But brown definatly deserves this, some people do not know how much depth you need in your roster to pull off all your boats placing. Let alone winning, in the fastest regatta in the world
I'm actually surprised there is not more speed in VA or DC/MD area. Perhaps I'm making a false assumption but HS rowing is costly and in general, only schools in locations where the medium income is high can really afford to put together teams. The DC area and NoVA in particular is very wealthy and often times with extra money, comes the ability to pay for training/coaching/facilities/equipment that helps in making faster crews. NoVA sure has the money for it. Then again, I've seen some poorly funded, scrape-the-bottom-of-the-barrel schools put on some great races - and good for them!.
Grand Valley Laker Ladies DESERVE this award. They outraced all of their competitors - club, varsity, scholarship - and did it OUT of their division by open water!!!! Four of the ladies on this crew WON the GOLD last year as Novice rowers at Dad Vail AND the other four ladies from last year's GOLD Medal novice boat won SILVER this year as the Varsity Women's boat in Div II!! GO LAKERS! What do you have in store NEXT year?? They have NO scholarships; it's a club program but a GREAT one - a DEEP one. Deep in the heart of Michigan, there's a college rowing on the Grand River that is turning heads - and the 2 women's teams are leading the way!
I believe that Grand Valley State Women's V8 deserves it. Grant it what Brown did was very impressive but they have always been a contender and at the top of the field, where as Grand Valley has raced D II/III the past three years and has consistently placed second and then this year they move up to D I and race scholarship varsity programs and win by open water. That is very impressive especially when Grand Valley is a club program with no scholarship athletes.
Brown doesn't have scholarship athletes either. This just means that Grand Valley should race in DI, like Trinity should, instead of dominating DII/DIII schools
Brown may not have scholarship athletes but I bet you they receive some form of financial aid, where as Grand Valley rowers have to pay to row. Each rower has to pay dues of700 dollars, just so the team can travel and have some of the luxuries that varsity programs have provided to them by the school. Not to mention that Brown mostly likely has some national team members, where as many of the rowers at Grand Valley did not know about rowing until they got to college.
Isn't Grand Valley Women a club program? Winning Dad Vails over d1 varsity programs like Buffalo, St. Joe's and UMass with numerous scholarships seems like a bigger achievement than what Yorktown did. And obviously, what Brown did is as well.
brown, like all the ivies, goes under the ruse of 'financial aid' to get the athletes they want to go there for free or close to it. its silly to say they do not have scholarship athletes.
You don't know what you're talking about. All the Ivies have need-blind admissions. An athlete is no more likely to receive financial aid than a cellist. All students are considered equally based on a family's ability to pay. Thankfully, I know firsthand.
Brown won every event they entered at Eastern Sprints. That means that every person on the bus ride home had a gold medal on their neck. They won the points trophy at Sprints by getting the highest amount of points possible. And to be honest, I don't even know what Yorktown is. Other then it was where General Cornwallis surendered.
sweeping the major events in the most prestigious regatta in the country is incredible. brown competed against some of the fastest crews in the country and beat them which took more hard work determination and balls than any other crew on this list. the amount of work that it takes to beat wisco, harvard, and others cannot even be compared to the amount of work required to beat dad vail teams and high school teams. grand valley women were the fastest of some slow teams. brown was the fastest of the fastest teams in the country. i dont see how they can be compared.
Don't misread what I wrote. I said that Grand Valley's accomplishment is bigger than the high school's, and that obviously Brown's accomplishment is also bigger. I'm not arguing against Brown earning top distinction, I think that Grand Valley deserves second though -- probably first if it didn't just so happen to fall on the same weekend that Brown swept sprints.
And I would hardly call Buffalo a slow crew -- 27th on the cMax rankings for d1 schools, and when you look at "Combined" they are 28th. Why? Because Grand Valley, a club program, is (statistically) 22nd and 2 spots shy of being one of the top 20 womens eights (regardless of D1, 2, 3, club, whatever status) in the country.
Yeah, I didnt say it was well written. I wrote "Obviously, what Brown did is (a bigger achievement than Yorktowns) as well". I think you read it "And obviously what Brown did as well"
Imagine if Brown just beat a Harvard program that had won Sprints the last 10 years. And imagine that Brown did this while not being allowed to recruit rowers. And imagine that it was the first gold Brown had won in the 1V in 40 years. This is essentially what Yorktown's V8 did last weekend. Brown rowed a great race at Sprints, but Yorktown has overcome much longer odds.
Hold your horses there, Darko. First off -- sure, Yorktown does not "recruit" rowers, but then again, what high school does? Second, yes, Yorktown beat TJ, but it seems TJ is quite a bit off their speed of the past. (Sort of like every team that beat Princeton getting nominated this year). Congrats to Yorktown -- a very deserving crew, but winning every single event entered at a high level regatta like Sprints seems a bit more noteworthy in my book.
Yorktown beating TJ is pretty great and BU medaling at Sprints is very impressive, but Brown's numerous wins this weekend make it appear to me as a "no contest" vote.
Ok...but look at the title of the poll,"Crew of the week," not "Crews of the week." Yorktown has done something that 40+ other schools have failed to do for 10 years. Brown has won races and they will likely win races in different categories in the future but the ONE "Crew of the Week" should go to Yorktown.
Gotta give a call to Yorktown. First time they've won Virginia Scholastic Championships in it's 30 years of history and they were the first crew to take down Thomas Jefferson in the Varsity 8 Men's Final in what seems like forever... I'm not positive but I believe it is over 10 years. They got a great dude as a cox'n as well. Congrats guys!
I am sure I will catch flak for being biased due to my user name, but I do have to say that it is unfair to say Brown only won because of Harvard's cox's poor steering. She did definitely steer a bad course at the end, but Brown came from a few seats down to win by about 8 seats, and that can't be contributed to a slightly bad course. Especially since Brown has managed to walk back considerably on Harvard in the closing 500 of two out of their three races so far this season. Brown had a better race, pure and simple. What happens at IRA's is anybody's guess at this point.
what makes your post any different than "looks like Harvard's (or whoever's) rowers' insufficient hard work over the winter gave this to Brown"? turns out this is poll is for CREW of the week, but you're right in that maybe next time brown races harvard in the 8- they should look out.
Marina's 4X rowed an AWESOME race with a courageous strategy! They paced our 4X from Tempe beautifully and then in the last hundred meters they pushed through a a great charge that our crew struggled to counter, but just couldn't muster it. HUGE congrats to Zohar and his girls, but we'll be gunning for you in Cincinnati! ;) - dan
To say Brown is the new Prep is ridiculous. Brown has a storied program with several national championships, including three in a row in the mid-90's. Brown is also the only program ever to win Sprints, IRA's, and Nationals in the same season, and they did it two years in a row in '93 and '94. Prep is a high school program that only became good in the last 15 years or so, and rows against a bunch of pimply faced kids. No top college crew (Brown, Harvard, Princeton, Cal, UW, et al), should ever be compared to St. Joe's Prep.
Alright buddy, I guess you don't read the comments on this poll unless you are in it. This was a joke. Chill out. And learn a little something about high school rowing Prep has been good for a long time and is also a storied program. Actually as I type this it seems Brown is the new Prep. But seriously last 15 years or so?
The first time St. Joe's won Stotesbury, which was at the time the preeminent race for that region, was in 1987. So, they became good 22 years ago, sorry. That is hardly a storied program.
I don't quite understand your question. Are you saying that since Dartmouth hadn't won Sprints or the IRA since 1992, that by my definition they are not a storied program? If you are trying to say they are a storied program, I would say you know nothing about college rowing. Dartmouth rowing has been around for a while, and I have friends who have rowed there, but they are absolutely not a storied program. They have, in fact, only won Sprints and IRA's once in the history of the sport, and have not come even remotely close any other time. They are not a perenially strong program, and cannot be considered to be on par with the Harvards, Princetons, Cals, Browns, UWs, etc.
Clearly I didn't get that it was a joke in the beginning. I responded the way I did because I rowed against the Prep when I was in high school, and hate the Prep. So, seeing anyone compare Brown to the Prep really got my blood boiling. Ha! And no, I was not in any of the boats that won this weekend as I graduated a while ago, but am happy to say I did row for Brown the last time they swept Sprints and IRA's, so I will always have that.
I'm pretty sure that Grand Valley's Women's 2V8 raced in the DII/DIII women's 8 and placed second the race right after their 1V8 won the women's 8...pretty impressive depth.
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cause let's look at the facts: brown athletes go to school for free they don't have to take classes they have other people practice for them their boats are made of nitrogen the seekonk is actually not water but pillows hulk hogan is their coach jesus comes on weekends to bless them
and, worst of all, they don't wash their hands
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If they had triumphed over Prep, Spirit or Augustine at Philadelphia cities that would be great. But the only team that really dominated at nationals and stotes that are from Virginia are Tj from 06 and 07. The only competition, high school wise, that turns out big in the end is really the teams in the Philadelphia tri state area.
But brown definatly deserves this, some people do not know how much depth you need in your roster to pull off all your boats placing. Let alone winning, in the fastest regatta in the world
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And I would hardly call Buffalo a slow crew -- 27th on the cMax rankings for d1 schools, and when you look at "Combined" they are 28th. Why? Because Grand Valley, a club program, is (statistically) 22nd and 2 spots shy of being one of the top 20 womens eights (regardless of D1, 2, 3, club, whatever status) in the country.
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